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2 months 1 week ago #19686 by renovate7
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Can anyone provide a link to a current 582 overhaul manual? It is not available thru Rotax. The only thing I can find is for one dated 1994.

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2 months 1 week ago #19687 by nickjaxe
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www.rotax-owner.com/en/support-topmenu/engine-manuals

Are these the one you found.

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2 months 1 week ago #19690 by renovate7
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Thanks for the reply, I've been thru all of those but there is no complete overhaul manual. Total tear down and rebuild with all the torque specs and tolerances. I've found one called a "Repair Manual" dated 10/1994 but nothing newer. www.avidfoxflyers.com/index.php?/topic/5...rbox-service-manual/ Hopefully this link will take you to it. It has it all but is 24 years old. I know someone who took the Lockwood course 2 years ago and they were given an "Overhaul Manual" but can't find it.

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2 months 1 week ago #19693 by admin
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Because the 582 engine is still in production, distribution of the 582 Overhaul Manual is restricted to the authorized factory overhaul facilities only. You can imagine the liability issues if uncertified entities were passing off a home-brew 'overhaul' as a factory overhaul...

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2 months 1 week ago #19695 by nickjaxe
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Hi you looked at this one from the Rotax web site.

www.flyrotax.com/services/technical-documentation.html

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2 months 1 week ago - 2 months 1 week ago #19702 by ToddK
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The 94 manual, in conjunction with the current manuals available for download here and from Rotax are still being used in the Rotax authorized 2 stroke repair classes. Apart from them switching to a grossly overpriced spark plug in the the mod (17?) very little has changed.

You can purchase it on amazon, or from AS.
Buy at
www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/bvpages/rtxrprbk.php

or download PDF:

www.reaa.ru/yabbfilesB/Attachments/RepairManual582UL.pdf
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2 months 1 week ago - 2 months 1 week ago #19703 by admin
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Do keep in mind that the 1994 462-532-582 Repair manual is not actually a "Current 582 Overhaul Manual" and does not contain any revisions made since then (The 1994 repair manual is no longer an officially supported document, that's why you won't find it published on the factory website) - whoever is distributing it should really have watermarked it:

HISTORICAL DOCUMENT - FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY (ENGINES NO LONGER IN PRODUCTION: Information May Be Outdated)
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2 months 1 week ago #19704 by renovate7
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Thanks for the replies. I downloaded the 94 manual and took it to a printer who made a bound copy for me. Admin, with all due respect, to not allow technical info to be disseminated is kind of ridiculous. Highly skilled people like me will work on our engines, to what our skill level and available instrumentation allows. And people who will build engines or do repairs for others will also due this anyway. To not allow torque specs and other critical info to be available does not help the sport/hobby, at all.
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2 months 1 week ago #19705 by ToddK
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Renovate7 is right on. I think is is pretty far fetched to assert that withholding important repair documents is somehow going to help Rotax in court after Farmer Joe crashes when his wife is sobbing "if only he had the service manual".

There are also a number of states that have right to repair laws that require manufactures to provide service documents, so depending on where you live, Rotax or their distributor in your region may very well be violating the law by withholding them.
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2 months 1 week ago #19706 by nickjaxe
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I bought my 503 new in 2011...it came with all manuals ice the one with all the engine tech stuff...and a link to the rotax site to download the latest.

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2 months 1 week ago - 2 months 1 week ago #19707 by admin
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I do agree with the sentiments expressed by ToddK & Renovate7... but I am sure that ROTAX is only following the advice of their legal teams. You can enquire about obtaining 'out-of-print' items with the local ROTAX distributor in your region.

Following the publication guidelines from ROTAX, we have already published some of the older docs, watermarked "HISTORICAL DOCUMENT - FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY (ENGINES NO LONGER IN PRODUCTION: Information May Be Outdated)". And there are a few more in the historical paper archives that I hope to scan, watermark, and publish soon.

You can find these legacy documents on our ENGINE MANUALS page. (Which is due to be expanded and improved shortly!)
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