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Well we just got vapor lock on a 912iS. Successful landing. Winter blend gas from Reno/Carson/Tahoe, record high temperatures, high altitude (8000MSL) and 91MoGas. No 100LL mixture. The perfect storm. After about 8500 hours on 912iS this is a first. All of my aircraft have well ventilated engine compartments. I remember flying in hot summer days with summer gas 90 degrees no problem. Winter gas in March with summer temperatures.

So we are going to start mixing 100LL in and additionally limiting outside temperatures. 

We run fuel out of low wing tanks, through the course filter, up about 2 feet to the fuel selector valve then down to the electric fuel pumps. I am assuming once it hits the electric fuel pumps and the pressure is boosted to 40+ psi before the fine fuel filter we are pressurized enough where vapor lock is less probable to the engine. Most probable in the fuel tanks to fuel pumps? Trying to conform my understanding of the situation. Any thoughts/experience is appreciated.

 

  • Re: Vapor Lock with 912iS. Most probable location?

    by » 2 days ago


    Hi Paul,
    It’s my opinion the only segment of the fuel system that will vaporize on the 912iS is before the pump. It’s best if the system can be designed so that there is gravity flow to the inlet side of the pump, or at least very little pressure drop required to pull fuel to the inlet. Winter fuel and hot weather don’t mix.

    Another consideration for the injected engines is the temperature of the fuel in the tank itself. Since the vaporization happens before the pump, hot fuel in the tanks from sitting on the ramp in the sun is a factor. The fuel can easily reach 120 degrees in the wing tanks sitting in the sun.  Then you may climb to altitude before the fuel in the tanks has cooled, and experience the vapor lock you describe.  Of course in your neck of the woods you are starting at higher altitude.  

    This happened to me just one time after leaving the plane in direct sun for a three hour lunch on rare 90 deg March day in Vacaville CA. I had winter fuel at that time.  After that I installed a temperature probe that wraps around an aluminum fuel line at the output of the selector valve and displays on my EFIS. I’ve seen temps of 120 deg F coming right out of the wing tank, and that would be a no-go for me with winter fuel.  I mix 50/50 with Avgas when only winter fuel is available.  

     

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    Thank you said by: Paul Hamilton

  • Re: Vapor Lock with 912iS. Most probable location?

    by » 2 days ago


    Hi Paul...yes get rid of any winter fuel.  Better yet avoid it altogether.  You hit the nail on the head with your assessment.  Winter blend, high altitude and hot temperatures.  In testing we have seen that fuel (winter blend) boil while you were doing fuel transfer with a fuel can.  It would bubble as you pour it into the tank.  If you must use auto fuel at least use a better octane.  Blend it as you noted with some Avgas, it can be leaded or unleaded.  (100LL or Swift fuel) 

     

    Cheers


    Thank you said by: Paul Hamilton

  • Re: Vapor Lock with 912iS. Most probable location?

    by » Yesterday


    Be careful not to conflate octane with Reid Vapor Pressure (RVP), they are unrelated and a higher octane won’t do anything to reduce vapor lock. We have a local fuel distributor that sells a 94 octane ethanol free gasoline year around for off road use. Light sport and experimental owners were initially excited about this fuel until people started having vapor lock problems. We tested this fuel and it turned out to have an RVP of 14! For comparison most winter fuel is about 13, summer fuel about 8, and avgas always 6-7. 


    Thank you said by: Paul Hamilton

  • Re: Vapor Lock with 912iS. Most probable location?

    by » Yesterday


    Yes for now with winter gas, we are blending 100LL and 91 auto plus limiting our OAT at airport to 70 F.

    Rotax has said it pretty clearly about blending for such situations. My bad. After 8000 hours with the 912iS, got the perfect storm. Additionally with the fuel tanks cooking all day in the hot sun, rather than fly in the morning, this did not help.


  • Re: Vapor Lock with 912iS. Most probable location?

    by » 6 hours ago


    Jeff, yes RVP is not the same as octane.  The point with Ethanol blends is that the statutory allowance in E10 is 1 point higher RVP simply because it is a higher oxygen content.  Winter fuels with no ethanol will be 1 point lower.  

    https://www.epa.gov/gasoline-standards/volatility-regulations-gasoline-and-alcohol-blends

    Cheers


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