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So we have been working on this nifty Tecnam P2006T.   It's always sort of had some funny RPM indication issues, at first it was just the occasional indicated prop overspeed (flashes) but the pilot had both props synced and he's pretty reliable and trustworthy.

The Tecnam P2006T in question is equipped with two Rotax 912S that are dated 2019 G1000 type unit and RPM is indicated with prop RPM so I am just going to call it PRPM going forward here

 

Recently the problem became more aggressive; now during acceleration through about 1900 PRPM the tachometer will indicate redline and just show ---- with the indicator on the Garmin G1000 or G950 on three occasions showing yellow X on the right PRPM gauge.   Here's where it gets interesting, I can "fix" the problem by shutting off the right ignition switch (which I learned AFTER swapping out the Tachometer Trigger Coil), PRPM reads steady and accurate. 

Obviously this is not an airworthy fix

-Naturally I start checking for interference from the ignition leads by swapping the ignition module leads on the Coil side, problem is still neutralized by turning the right ignition lead off.

-I swap the connections back to their original position towards the coils and swap the connections on the airframe/trigger coil side of the ignition modules, problem is still neutralized by turning the right ignition lead off

-I swap the connectors back to all their original configurations so now left ignition module is A and right ignition module is B

-I swap the connectors on the ignition switches and now the problem has switched over to the left ignition switch

-Seemed to me at the time the issue is likely the P-lead must be feeding interference into my tachometer sensor.

-Replaced the entire length of right ignition switch P-lead wire right up to the airframe connector labeled P46J and installed a new ground for the shielding but the old wire really didn't look too bad, honestly it looked very clean and brand new.

-I also couldn't find the ground for the tachometer shielding in the same area so I just ran one closer to the main wire as it looked like the shielding probably grounded at the GEA71 unit in the back of the plane and this would be quicker to just get it done.

-I ran up the engine after all the wires were gone through as previously mentioned and threw in a Tanis because it's cold out here in Manitoba

-Problem has now emigrated to the left ignition switch.

 

I had looked pretty closely at the condition of the P-lead wires and didn't feel like changing the wire accomplished anything nor grounding the airframe side of the tachometer wire, so I guess I might need to be somehow more conscious about where these three wires go through the bundle as maybe having it all taken apart and put back together just meant that I moved the issue because of the tachometer wires proximity to my P-leads.

 

Any tips tricks or advice would be always appreciated but for now my next move is to fully isolate the tach wire all the way from the engine to the GEA in the tail which means I need to de-bundle and re-bundle this all again 

  • Re: Tachometer problems

    by » Yesterday


    You have not received a response from the experts - so I will do what I can.

    I doubt my response will be a of assistance, however you should know, I have never heard of a Rotax installation using propeller speed - it's always engine speed.

    I understand this may require a mental shift, for those used to direct drive engines, however as far as I know Rotax engine management recommendation are all in engine speed (rpm).

    Could your problem relate to the calibration of your electronic engine management system having difficulty (out of callibration) converting engine speed to propeller speed?😈


  • Re: Tachometer problems

    by » Yesterday


    First, this is a certified aircraft, it is made to be as near to other conventional aircraft as possible that are for the most part direct drive.  (therefore crankshaft and prop RPM are the same}  All said the numbers are fine to use.  

    The Rotax 912S, like the ULS experimental version, uses a signal from a trigger mounted at the flywheel.  The ground is via the bolts to the crankcase and the signal goes to the instrument.  The normal issue with errant signals is the signal wire picks up a high tension wire (spark plug lead) interference.  My suggestion is look at the routing and make sure that that it is not too near the plug leads.  Remember that each spark that occurs causes a field around the plug wire, this can be sensed in some cases and will lead to changes in the reading.  

    Actual P leads (power from charge coil to module, the red ones) are not routed near the tach wire normally.  Check your plug to tack wire locations.  See what has changed.  There should be a small plastic sleeve on the tach wire from the trigger to the connector, be sure that is intact and not making contact with your high tension cables. 

    Cheers


    Thank you said by: Sean Griffin

  • Re: Tachometer problems

    by » 9 hours ago


    ".......it is made to be as near to other conventional aircraft as possible that are for the most part direct drive"

    My completely biased opinion;

    What a load of rubbish - If a pilot can not accomodate engine speed, as the appropriate parameter, for management, he/she should not be allowed in the cockpit.

    The only reason for prop speed, as an engine management tool, is the predominance of direct drive ie prop/engine rpm the same.

    The above statement panders to lazy inflexible thinking - not what you want in pilot, who should be able to accomodate atypical situations.

    😈

     


  • Re: Tachometer problems

    by » 7 hours ago


    Even though its unusual, how are you to know what reasons someone may have for wanting to display prop speed. Your unthinking hasty and biased opinion is a load of rubbish; my opinion of course.


    Thank you said by: Sean Griffin

  • Re: Tachometer problems

    by » 5 hours ago


    Paul,

    I could not find wiring examples for connecting the GEA 71 to the Rotax tach coil. I suppose it uses one of the digital inputs. The only example shown is with a three wire transducer driving the tach signal.  

    Because far more of these engines are installed in SLSA or ELSA, it’s  more common to see the Garmin GEA-24 or even the GSU-73 for engine function monitoring with the Rotax engine. There are wiring examples in the G3X installation manual for both of these modules connected to the Rotax tach coil. In both cases they require a 300 ohm resistor between the coil input and ground at the module, along with a diode and zener diode in the circuit. This acts as a buffer/regulator to the circuit. I don’t know if this is required for the GEA-71 but I would bet it is. I’m wondering if Tecnam may have overlooked this. You might call Garmin and ask them for a connection diagram and compare it to what you have. 


    Thank you said by: Paul Wieler

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