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Hello Everybody.
It's very nice to join the forum !
Not long ago I became an owner of an interesting device. It's a 1995 Tomcar TM12 buggy, Israeli made. This buggy runs a 582 Rotax, thus I'm in this forum :)
The motor that I have is somewhat alive: it runs and gives a good compression (120 psi). I'm in the process of building conrod bearing clearance tester to check the status of the bearings and if is alright, I wont be doing an overhaul at this point (the rotary valve oil looks OK so I hope the seals are good). I will rebuild the carbs (ordered the rebuild kit for them) and will change all the hoses that I can (oil hose, fuel hose, etc).
As I'm looking for a clear installation, I'm trying to understand how things were supposed to work in the electrical system. On my motor, the loom that comes out of the magneto is all wrapped in electrical tape and plastic ties. I want to remove the tape and make a nice loom with spiral hose, soft tape and proper connectors. Could maybe someone share a photo of how the original loom looks like?
I also have a question about the shortening cables (the cables that are used to stop the motor but disabling the ignition). In the manual it says that the cables should be left open ended while the motors runs and pulled down to gnd to stop it. On my setup, for some reason, the wires were left open while running but PULLED UP to +12v to stop the motor and it worked. How is that and what would be the proper way?
Thank you
Evgeny
  • Re: 582 electrical system question

    by » 5 years ago


    The spark happens when the Points Open and the Magnet field in the spark Coils collapse.
    Traditionally the Points are shorted to ground producing a virtual set of points that never open. No Spark!
    Anything you do to prevent the opening and closing action is going to stop the engine.
    Making an engine NOT Run is generally easier than the alternative

    Connecting the Points to +12v will stop the engine but it will also produce a dead short of the power source through the points to ground.
    Unless there is some current limiting device (Resistor?) in series with the ignition switch, the alternator and battery are going to be shorted to ground. Bad!

    Even with a current limiting device in place, unless the ignition switch is OPENED soon after the engine stops, the battery is going to be drained in a short time. Also, Bad.

    Connect the Ignition switch to ground.
    Connecting to 12v will stop the engine but that is the only good thing that can be said about that configuration.
    Bad for the Points. Bad For the Battery.

    Bill Hertzel
    Rotax 912is
    North Ridgeville, OH, USA
    Clicking the "Thank You" is Always Appreciated by Everyone.


    Thank you said by: Evgeny Knafel, RotaxOwner Admin

  • Re: 582 electrical system question

    by » 5 years ago


    Hey. Just now got back to fixing this thing.... How do I realize this pulldown with a regular ignition switch? My switch doesn't have a 31b terminal (switch to ground terminal).... I use a 3 position Cole Hersee 956-3135 switch...

    Do I have to install a separate turn-off switch?


  • Re: 582 electrical system question

    by » 5 years ago


    The 3 Pos switch is OFF-ON-Start.

    It will control the lights and the starter but not the Ignitions(Mags).

    You will need two(2) Mag switches at a minimum.

    Is could be a fancy Left-Right-Both switch but 2 simple ON-OFF toggle switches will do the job just the same.

    Just remember Switch ON = Ignition OFF


    Bill Hertzel
    Rotax 912is
    North Ridgeville, OH, USA
    Clicking the "Thank You" is Always Appreciated by Everyone.


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