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  • Re: won't burp

    by » 9 years ago


    Maybe his crankcase is vented thru a loose or missing plug and won't build up any pressure to push the oil out. When the engine runs there is enough pressure to overcome the venting maybe.

  • Re: won't burp

    by » 9 years ago


    Thanks to you all for the good advise. Let me give a little more information. My plane is a Kitfox 4. I bought it several years ago. I was the 3rd owner. The original owner bought the kit and engine in '95 and never started work on it. The second owner, who was a very knowledgable and experienced builder, had started construction and had mounted and had ran the engine. I ran the engine several times over the last few years while I was completing the build. I regularly burped it and turned it with the started to circulate the oil but it had been a couple of years since it had been run. Recently, I had my friend, the Rotax trained light sport A&P go over it good before running it. It burped good like always, made good oil pressure by hand turning, compression felt good. It started right up, I warmed to up, we got the carbs sinched and it ran like a fine watch. A few days later I had planned to run it up and set the prop pitch but it never would burp and the oil wouldn't come up it the tank but spin it with the starter and instant oil pressure. Also I didn't think the compression felt the same when I hand turned it. So maybe the rings are sticking? It hasn't been flown yet but it's ready if I can solve this engine issue. Question? If it's sticking rings should I run it some, maybe run it hard enough to set the prop pitch? I plan on looking for any kind of crank case leak making sure than nothing is loose. Also, like Roger said, it does have the oil tank mounted high above the engine. The Kitfox 4 has the engine mounted right next to the firewall so the oil tank is always mounted high. Also Roger, yes my oil filter is the older type. I bought several of the older type Rotax filters before the newer type came out. I understand they had the check valve too. So, thanks for all of you advise. I'll be happy to hear from y'all so if you have any other ideas let me know. I'll let y'all know when I get this mystery solved. Thanks, James Thomas

  • Re: won't burp

    by » 9 years ago


    Check the oil line between the bottom of the crankcase and the oil tank for kinks or twists.
    Check the crankcase pressure per the procedure in the 912 installation manual.

    Cammie Patch
    Rotax Heavy
    A&P

  • Re: won't burp

    by » 9 years ago


    A high mounted oil tank as is the case on the Kitfox will allow virtually all the oil to syphon into the crankcase when parked for a few days, (even if you have the new oil filter). So with 3L of oil in the crankcase you will have to pull a lot of blades to return the oil to the tank. Pull the blades slowly pausing at TDC to allow the compression gases to seep past the rings into the crankcase which in turn returns the oil back to the tank.

    If you are going to start the engine before a full gurgle is achieved make sure you have some oil in the tank to lube the bearings and you haven't got a hydraulic lock (which can occur when oil seeps past the rings into the combustion chamber (as a result of the high level of oil in the crankcase).

    I suspect your engine is fine, but a simple differential compression check should tell you if you have a ring problem. If you remove the oil tank cap during the differential compression test you should hear the oil tank gurgling.

  • Re: won't burp

    by » 9 years ago


    The mystery has been solved. I finally got a burp out of it a couple of weeks ago but only after well over 200 blades. I could find nothing unusual, nothing loose or missing so I ran it long enough to warm it up and changed the oil and filter. BINGO! I went to the airport today after it had sat for several days. I pulled 26 blades and it burped just like it should. I ran it for a few minutes to warm the oil, burped it, ran it some more and burped it again. It's doing just like it should again. The only thing that's changed other than the oil is the oil filter. I suspect the check valve was the problem. Like I said before, I bought several filters several years ago before the newer type filter came out. I've never heard of anyone else having this problem. Maybe Rotax changed filters because they discovered something. Anyway, y'all can file this one as "problem solved". My experience might save someone else the headaches I've had. Thanks for all the good advise. James Thomas

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