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With both fuel pumps running (on the ground or inflight, any power setting), turning off pump 2 results in a momentary (approx 1 sec) power loss. RPM decays and fuel pressure drops. Comes right back. Does not happen when pump 1 is turned off.

Good steady fuel pressure single or dual pumps.

Suspect #2 check valve slow to open.

Using 93 octane ethanol free.

Any ideas?

 

  • Re: fuel pumps

    by » 5 days ago


    Hi Steven

    Perhaps switch the wires on your toggles from 1 and 2 pumps.  Designate 1 as 2 and 2 as 1.  If it is indeed a check valve that may give you an answer.  When off,  the inline vane type pump does not pass fuel, the check valve lets it then flow around it.  Since the pumps are in series, in line, then it depends on which pump is running and flow to keep the check valve open.  It would be good to isolate if it is power related, switch or wire connection, or a pump issue itself.  If you can switch the connectors on the pumps themselves i would try that also. 

    The fuel type and ethanol should have nothing to do with this problem.  

    Cheers


  • Re: fuel pumps

    by » 3 days ago


    I have a similar problem.

    When the 915is is hot after an hour or so of flight, it can stop when turning off pump 2 (with pump 1 switch still on).  On a shorter flight, on shut down of pump 2, it stutters as the original poster described (see videos).  Initially I thought it was the check valves so I replaced the complete fuel pump assembly, which did not improve the issue.

    I believe this is an electrical problem more than a fuel flow issue.  I am also having some other electrical issues with the Garmin avionics rebooting un-commanded.  I’ve had good interaction with Rotax and sent the BUD’s data files to them, they are still analyzing.  It has been suggested that the stators could be an issue, which appear to be good.  As this seems to be related to heat as well, I’m suspecting one of the rectifier-regulators or something with the Fuse Box.  I have checked all the grounds I could find.    

    I have replaced the:

      - fuel pumps

      - fine fuel filter

      - battery  

       - radio

    The following video links illustrate the issues

      A – Engine Stops When Pump 2 is Turned Off (when engine is warm after a 1-hour flight)

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-9R2G3hW8Gzvtn2payDuER6oA9MJOuk9/view?usp=sharing

    B – Engine Stutters when Pump 2 is Turned Off (usually after a shorter flight, notice the Amperage Draw)

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-FzTKfVEVs8KtZXTLF3sMHTQzJjMY7xu/view?usp=sharing

    The aircraft is a 2022 AutoGyro Cavalon 915is with 460 hours.


  • Re: fuel pumps

    by » 3 days ago


    Mark

    The injected engines have 3 phase charging to the regulators.  Be sure that each leg is working correctly.  Normally the B side of the charging is what fails and can lead to failure of the regulator.  

    A quick check of the stator can be done by disconnecting your regulator, with engine off.  Take a good multimeter and bridge between wire 1 and wire 2, then wire 1 to wire 3.  Last check between wire 2 and wire 3.  This should show all 3 legs with equal resistance.  You can also check each wire end at the connector to ground, they should not any connection.  If you have a connection to ground on any of the 3 wire ends the stator has failed.  

    Cheers

    40628_2_check stator ohms.jpg (You do not have access to download this file.)

    Thank you said by: Mark Wilson

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