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POWER LOSS VAN’S RV12 ROTAX 912ULS

Today 3/14/2017 a friend flew a RV12 to Williams Arizona, KCMR. Airport elevation 6691 ft. outside temperature was low 70’s. Flight in was normal. When he went to leave, just after becoming airborne the engine stumbled and lost significant power. An aborted landing was successful. An A&P from Prescott, AZ was contacted. The A&P had built this RV12 as well as a second one he flies. The A&P flew the second RV12 to Williams. He checked the carburetor bowls for debris on the first RV12 as well as doing a full run-up. All seemed normal and no debris was found. A second attempt to take off was made by the first RV12. Again the engine stumbled and failed to produce full power. The decision was to leave the first RV12 in Williams and fly the second one back to Prescott, planning on returning in the morning. The second RV12 did a run-up, which was normal, and started the take off roll. The second RV12 experienced a similar engine stumble and extreme roughness. The second RV12 could not develop take off power. Both aircraft are Rotax powered with 912ULS engines. Both are identical in the fuel system and carburation. Both also experienced fluctuating fuel pressure during the attempted takeoffs.

Both aircraft were burning 91-octane auto fuel with ethanol, purchased locally in Prescott Arizona at two different locations. It appears that both aircraft experienced vapor lock while applying full power for take off. The weather has been much warmer in Northern Arizona than usual for this time of year. We believe the fuel, which is in all probability, a winter blend, has too high a vapor pressure, thus causing the vapor lock.

For those of you RV12 drivers using auto fuel at high elevation airports in warm temperatures BEWARE. Both RV12’s will be flown out of Williams tomorrow morning when the temperatures are expected to be in the high 30’s to low 40’s.

Until or when we can determine that the refineries are producing summer blend auto gasoline, we will be changing to 100ll. And may continue with 100ll during the summer months to avoid the possibility of vapor lock at high elevation airports, regardless of the auto fuel blend.
  • Re: Power Loss RV12 912ULS

    by » 7 years ago


    Hi Robert,

    Quick question or two.

    Are the fuel hoses in fire sleeve or are they the red Teflon fuel hoses? If you are using the Teflon hoses I would still put them in fire sleeve and that would help put a little extra heat protection. Do these engine have fuel recirculation hoses after the fuel pump? These are a must especially with the newer Corona fuel pump.
    It is fairly normal to fly into an airport and leave the plane for 30 min to an hour and come out and have low fuel pressure due to the hot under the cowl temps. Did you guys run the engines for a while to get more normal fuel pressures back with cooler fuel before take off?

    Roger Lee
    LSRM-A & Rotax Instructor & Rotax IRC
    Tucson, AZ Ryan Airfield (KRYN)
    520-349-7056 Cell


  • Re: Power Loss RV12 912ULS

    by » 7 years ago


    Hi Roger,

    Fuel lines are all in fire sleeve. All teflon fuel lines. Standard RV12 set up. One plane completed 2013, the other 2014. Ambient Temp was in the low 70's. Both planes set for over an hour before starting for the takeoff. Both had normal run-ups at pre-take off check. Warm in Williams but not excessive. After the incidents. Both were topped off with 100ll. Each plane only took about 5 to 8 gallons. Both had the boost pumps on and pressure was normal until takeoff, then fluctuating fuel pressure and power loss. Both aircraft fly regularly and recently were in Payson. A check on date of formulation change from Argus gasoline, showed Arizona schedule for change from winter to summer blends to be 15 April to 15 September. Don't have any other definitive data on the formulation change dates. I'll give you a call today.

    Bob

  • Re: Power Loss RV12 912ULS

    by » 7 years ago


    Both aircraft were flown out of Williams AZ this morning. Temps in the low 50's. No problems experienced and fuel pressures were steady. Clearly a fuel blend problem at high density altitude and temperatures. Will use 100ll and/or a combination until after the April 15 change over date for summer blend. May just stay with 100ll for safety's sake.

  • Re: Power Loss RV12 912ULS

    by » 7 years ago


    I don't want to appear to be unsypathetic....

    Considering that 2 RV-12s built by the same builder and running fuel purchased from the same source had the same problem that no one else did;
    It would be reasonable that either the fuel is suspect, or the details of the fuel system should be re-evaluated.

    The auto fuel STC testing included a test where the fuel was pre-heated to 110°F and then flown to 12,500ft.
    You didn't make it above 12,500ft, but somewhere under the cowl, the fuel may be getting well hotter than 110°F.

    Unless you were just unlucky enough to get a badly stored batch of fuel,
    You might want to have a look at the routing of the fuel lines in relation to high heat sources.

    Or... there is a flow restriction on the suction side of the fuel pump.
    An undersized and/or dirty fuel filter would be the first place to check.

    Bill Hertzel
    Rotax 912is
    North Ridgeville, OH, USA
    Clicking the "Thank You" is Always Appreciated by Everyone.


  • Re: Power Loss RV12 912ULS

    by » 7 years ago


    I also had vapor lock issue yesterday as the engine quit on take off and full power. Outside temp of 75 degrees and airport elevation of 380'msl. I was using ethanol free 91 octane auto fuel that was purchased mid march. Had a mechanic check the fuel system and everything is Ok. Drained the tanks, filled with 100LL and off I went without any problem.
    The engine had time to cool down for the 3 hours it took to check everything out.
    My airplane is not a RV12 but a factory built Pipistrel Sinus touring motorglider, first time in 3 years that I come up with this issue. I always store this airplane for the winter months and the only difference this year is the fact that I fueled it 1 month earlier than usual. There must be something with that 'winter' fuel that we get here in Quebec, Can.

    Thank you said by: RotaxOwner Admin

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