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Hello.

After owning a 582 for many years, I recently bought a 2005 WSC trike with a low hours 912 UL (145 hours TT). Everything is in good order and well maintained, except for one thing... It does not start well when it sat for a couple of days or more. Only after repeated tries with full choke (at least 4 long times or more) or with the use of starter fluid will it fire up. The good news is that after it ran (even if it was just for 10 seconds), it will restart immediately without any problem whatsoever.

I have been told that "some of these older engines are just like that, and I shouldn't worry about it too much". "Just be patient or use starter fluid".

Clearly I'm not satisfied and want to get to the bottom of this. The two Rotax mechanics I spoke to agree and have been helping me trouble shoot. Nevertheless, I wanted to share this 'quest' on this forum and see if anyone has had a similar experience or good advise for me. Or if nothing else, I thought it would be good to document for future reference.

What we checked and planned to do so far:
- Fuel supply to carburetor seems ok. Bowls are filled. Pump is working well.
- Choke is fully opened when cranking.
- Replaced battery with a brand new lithium version.
- Starter motor appears to be ok (sounds good) but haven't been able to test fully.
- Spark plugs appear to be ok with correct gap (although I only checked one so far; will be checking others)
- Carburetors have been balanced.
- Idle is set to 1800 - 1900 (which I've been told is a little high, so will lower that to 1750).
- It was also suggested to check idle mixture adjuster knob, which we'll do as well (turning 1.5 times outward).

So there you have it. I look forward to sharing future results and hearing from others.

Maarten.
  • Re: 912 UL cold start trouble shooting

    by » 8 years ago


    If starter fluid does the trick then it is just not getting enough fuel to cold-start.
    Make sure the chokes (starting carbs) are not mixed up:
    - the "dot" on the choke shaft should point towards the cable eye
    - The cable eye should be lined up with the "hump" of the air inlet.
    - The 1-3 carb choke shaft should have "L" stamped on the end (need to remove the choke housing to see this. The 2-4 shaft should have a "R"
    - Make sure the choke levers are assembled correctly. The spring orientation should tell you that. see pdf.
    chokeinfo.pdf (You do not have access to download this file.)

    Thank you said by: Maarten Lobker

  • Re: 912 UL cold start trouble shooting

    by » 8 years ago


    Hi Maarten,

    Nice talking the other night. See I told you you might get some more good ideas from this site. More good things to double check since you don't know what the last owner or mechanic did.


    Rob is an excellent source.

    Roger Lee
    LSRM-A & Rotax Instructor & Rotax IRC
    Tucson, AZ Ryan Airfield (KRYN)
    520-349-7056 Cell


    Thank you said by: Maarten Lobker

  • Re: 912 UL cold start trouble shooting

    by » 8 years ago


    Thank you Rob and Roger.
    I agree, the choke is a likely suspect. From the outside everything seems ok though, but I'll use your diagram and tips to check it inside as well. Stay tuned.

  • Re: 912 UL cold start trouble shooting

    by » 8 years ago


    An experienced tech can easily mix up the chokes if they take both carbs apart at the same time. As the shafts are stamped "L" and "R" it is logical to think they go on the right and left sides. This is only true of a pusher configuration, and will be backwards in a tractor installation. In this case the chokes will do nothing and the engine will be very hard to cold-start.

  • Re: 912 UL cold start trouble shooting

    by » 8 years ago


    This is all starting to make so much sense. I can't wait to check and test it when I'm in the hangar this weekend.
    Thanks again!

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