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I mentioned this in another post, but wanted to ask a more specific question. I fly an AutoGyro Cavalon with a 914. Autogyro installs an oil sensor in the oil tank as the main sensor for the temp gauge, the uses the oil pump sensor for a warning light. I’ve recently installed an AVMap Engibox which gives more specific readings over the old analog gauge (now I can’t stop looking at it! :)).

My question is, does anyone know the typical temperature difference between oil entering the engine (oil pump) and oil exiting the engine (oil tank)? I may install a gauge on the sensor running to the light, but just thought I’d ask first. Obviously if the tank temp is in the green, then I’d think the other should be too.

One issue with pulling temp from the tank is that the exhaust / undercowling heat buildup will heat the tank giving a higher reading too I’d think.

I appreciate you thoughts. Thanks!
  • Re: Oil Temp Sensor Placement / Temperature

    by » 6 years ago


    I don’t think it’s necessary. What would it do for you and what would it really change.

    Roger Lee
    LSRM-A & Rotax Instructor & Rotax IRC
    Tucson, AZ Ryan Airfield (KRYN)
    520-349-7056 Cell


  • Re: Oil Temp Sensor Placement / Temperature

    by » 6 years ago


    Knowing the difference between the warmest and coolest side would tell me if I’m actually running hot and by how much. It would also be interesting to know how well the oil cooler cools.

  • Re: Oil Temp Sensor Placement / Temperature

    by » 6 years ago


    Your setup would be an anomaly compared to all the other 912 & 915 series Rotax engines out there. There is a temp sensor down at the oil pump and that is deemed all you need since 1990. This is where Rotax measures oil temp and where their oil temp specs are determined. The engine doesn’t care what the temp is in the tank. You also have CHT or other engine temps to help monitor the engine. You can’t and don’t need to change oil tank temps. Other than giving you a comparison between entry and exit oil temp the info won’t change anything.

    Roger Lee
    LSRM-A & Rotax Instructor & Rotax IRC
    Tucson, AZ Ryan Airfield (KRYN)
    520-349-7056 Cell


  • Re: Oil Temp Sensor Placement / Temperature

    by » 6 years ago


    I don't know why, but AutoGyro decided to move the sensor to the tank. I certainly understand it's not typical and I'm not advocating it. I was just hoping to get a rough idea of the temperature drop on the oil cooler (if anyone knew the typical temp drop). This would be helpful since Rotax's temp range is after the oil cool and I would know the difference between it being really warm but in range vs potential over heat and land soon.

    Sounds like the answer is we don't know and perhaps don't care. I'll do some testing to figure it out, in the least I would think it would be helpful to other AutoGyro flyers.

  • Re: Oil Temp Sensor Placement / Temperature

    by » 6 years ago


    ... My question is, does anyone know the typical temperature difference between oil entering the engine (oil pump) and oil exiting the engine (oil tank)? I may install a gauge on the sensor running to the light, but just thought I’d ask first. Obviously, if the tank temp is in the green, then I’d think the other should be too...


    The differential temperature has been reported to be minimal. (An old argument.)
    You would be applauded for actually answering the question with a real measurement.
    The Sensor running to the light is a switch. Installing a Gauge on the line will not work.


    [quote]One issue with pulling temp from the tank is that the exhaust / under-cowling heat buildup will heat the tank giving a higher reading too I’d think.[/quote]

    With the Oil Temp Sensor on the engine at the Oil Pump, you are measuring at the coolest spot in the circulation path. It may only be 1-degree cooler, but it isn't any warmer.
    Your under-cowling temp should certainly be cooler than the Oil temp(200F+), so it would be cooling, Not Heating, the Oil.
    The oil tank collects the Oil coming Out of the engine and will be Hotter (However Slightly?) than the normal reading at the pump where the Oil reenters the engine.

    If the Oil in the Tank is not above Red Line, the engine isn't either.
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    This is an academic exercise.
    The answer is interesting but not of any real consequence.
    But still, inquiring minds want to know! :)

    If you install the dual gauges and report the results, your efforts will be admired for years to come.
    This could become your Legacy!
    People will be talking about the Magnight experiment for centuries! ;)

    Humor aside, I am actually serious about seeing the results. Go for it!

    Bill Hertzel
    Rotax 912is
    North Ridgeville, OH, USA
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