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A question in our Dynamic WT9 forum in Brazil raises the doubt about a bulletin issued by the company that assembles this aircraft in Brazil with the following recommendation for aircraft with Rotax 914:

"In order to maintain system redundancy and increase flight safety, it is recommended to fly ALWAYS with the main and auxiliary fuel pumps ON"

As I recall reading the manual and in subsequent Rotax bulletins, I do not remember this recommendation. 

Someone to give an opinion on the subject?

 

Thank You,

Marcelo

 

  • Re: 914 flying with both fuel pumps ON

    by » 3 years ago


    Pre-flight to check each pump individually.  Fly with both on. Its also the recomendation from the maker of my aircraft kit. 


  • Re: 914 flying with both fuel pumps ON

    by » 3 years ago


    Once you are in cruise, it seems to me you are just wearing them out faster if you leave both on.  If your engine quits in cruise, your checklist should include turning on the other pump and attempting restart.

    I have a 912 – I check my electric aux pump as part of preflight, and turn it on before takeoff, but I do not leave it running all flight...


  • Re: 914 flying with both fuel pumps ON

    by » 3 years ago


    Depends on your altitude. If you're high enough to allow time for a restart then it's OK to turn one off but I usually fly so low that if one fuel pump quit I wouldn't have time to do anything but concentrate on flying it to the ground.


  • Re: 914 flying with both fuel pumps ON

    by » 3 years ago


    My question would be "How will you ever know if one pump quits working?"  Without some way of knowing this, or of testing each pump separately, one pump might fail, and you would have no way to know you were operating with no redundancy until the second one failed.  You'd be no better off than if you only had one pump!

    Personal experience:  I was flying with a buddy who had an engine-driven fuel pump fail enroute on a cross-country (Lycoming engine, not Rotax).  My friend had forgotten to do the "cruise" checklist when we first got to our cruising altitude, but remembered to do it 30 minutes later.  Most of the stuff on the checklist had already been done, except for turning the fuel pump "off"...  He turned the switch off, and 5-6 seconds later, the engine quit.  Clearly, the engine-driven fuel pump had failed sometime after we did our run-up check pre-takeoff, and we had no indication of that fact until the electric pump was turned off and the fuel stopped flowing!  

    Of course, he turned the electric fuel pump back on, and within 3-5 seconds the engine was purring along again, as though nothing had happened. 

    As we flew on to the nearest airport with a mechanic available, we discussed how the checklist procedures ensured both pumps were working before you departed.  In his airplane's case, the electric fuel pump was turned ON before starting the engine, so you could observe a rise in fuel pressure (and hear the pump, by the way), then turned OFF before actually starting the engine, which would verify that the engine-driven pump was working. 

    We also discussed what a great idea it was for the checklist to require the electric pump to be turned ON as part of the before-takeoff actions, since we had no way of knowing exactly when the engine-driven pump had failed.  Worst-case scenario could have been below 500 ft on takeoff, or while we were at 1000 ft above a densely populated area.

    Making a long answer shorter, I would NOT operate with both pumps on all the time, unless there is an indication for the pilot to know if one or the other fails.  From what I understand, the Facet pumps we normally use for Rotax engines don't have any "internal check" for status, and could well continue to draw power even when the pump quits working.  


    Thank you said by: Bill Hertzel, Brian FitzGerald

  • Re: 914 flying with both fuel pumps ON

    by » 3 years ago


    Very good your comment plus a good story, where we really learned there.

     

    Thank you

     

     

    Marcelo


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