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Howdy folks,

Sling 2 LSA, Rotax 912is 1700 hours.

Normal startup my amps would be -2 to -4 until increasing RPM's to 2500 to kick the alternator on. Amps would go positive 1-3 and amps would rise to 13.2-13,5.  Normal flight would be 0 to +1a and 13.2-13,5 volts ALL the time.

Now upon startup, amps start at -3 to -6, increasing RPM to 2500 gets me to -1 to -2 a and volts stay between 12.2 and 12.5 moving up and down so there is alternator power. Big difference.

During flight I maintain 12.0-12.5volts, occasionally it will go to 11.8-11.9 but rise back above quickly. Amps stay at -1 to -3.

If I pop my ECU backup on, basically bypassing the alternator(?), my amps go to +7 and the volts go back to the happy 13.1-13.2.  I am pretty sure I cannot keep the ECU backup on all the time, that seems like a bad decision

I have replaced the battery and switched out all 3 relays in the ECU and still have the issue.

My BELEIF is that Alternator A is struggling to push out enough amps to keep me 13+ volts but is working, keeping me above 12.0.

My HOPE is someone knows something I am missing and can troubleshoot an easier fix than what I fear is wrong.

My FEAR is my alternator has hit its old age and needs to be retired.

Would love any assistance you fine folks have to offer!

  • Re: 912is volts/amps

    by » 21 hours ago


    Voltage regulators?  They have a history of failing.  I believe the backup ecu switch on my rv12is goes straight to the battery, which might explain the voltage difference. (???)


  • Re: 912is volts/amps

    by » 20 hours ago


    I had same issue with my 912ULS (no ecu backup) but changed out the voltage regulator and all is again normal.

     


  • Re: 912is volts/amps

    by » 19 hours ago


    The alternator B stator or regulator B has likely failed. Or possibly the 3-wire connector between alternator B and regulator B has failed.  Alternator B is not monitored by the Rotax ECU and is normally connected to the airframe after 2500 rpm has been reached for a few seconds. Your indications of low voltage and amps indicate a problem with this system.  

    Alternator A is working fine.  This is proven by two things.  

    1. The ECUs are not showing a low buss voltage fault so the voltage is OK. Both ECU lane busses are powered from alternator A in normal operation.

    2. When you turned on the emergency power switch you tied the airframe power system to Alternator A and the voltage and charging current to the airframe increased. This indicates alternator A is functional, but be careful doing that in this situation, your airframe power needs can easily overwhelm alternator A, which is sized to carry the engine loads, not the airframe loads.  

    Alternator B is much more prone to failure because it is sized for average airframe loads. And having the loads too low or too high can be problematic.  There have been a couple of important updates to the system including a new connector between regulator B and the alternator B stator, and a new stator housing with an improved oil spray nozzle to help cool the stator.  Neither were mandatory, but I would do them both if you have to replace the stator.  


    Thank you said by: Dan

  • Re: 912is volts/amps

    by » 8 hours ago


    Thank you for the detailed reply.

     I am assuming this is a critical repair and needs to be done asap.  The aircraft flies fine but i am putting too much pressure on Alternator A by flying and run the risk of it failing leaving me no backup if i understand correctly? 

     

    I have flown 3-4 hours with this condition so far...


  • Re: 912is volts/amps

    by » 3 hours ago


    It should be repaired before your next flight. A short ferry flight may be possible starting with a fully charged battery and using minimal electrical loads in the aircraft. You run the risk of alternator A failing with little or no emergency power. 

    The emergency power switch is intended to supply the engine systems with emergency power from the battery in the event both alternators fail.  The anticipated use would be:

    1. Alternator A fails, and the EMS assumes control of Alternator B, the airframe is no longer charging but the engine is fine.  In this situation you get lane warning lights because the engine is using the alternate power supply. Your airframe electrical system is no longer being charged and running on the battery only.

    2. Next, if alternator B fails the engine stops. You then switch on the emergency battery switch and restart the engine and land as soon as possible (before battery power runs out). You would also immediately shed as much electrical load as possible to preserve battery power for the engine and fuel pumps.

    Using this switch in the reserve, charging the battery from alternator A, is not discussed in the operating manual and is an option available as a consequence of its intended use. Once you understand it, this can be done, but is ill advised unless you have reduced the airframe loads to a minimum. 


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