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  • Re: Stator output.

    by » 5 years ago


    EarthX Lithium Battery Charging

    EarthX lithium batteries can sit on the shelf for up to a year without the need to charge it due to the low self discharge rate which is about 2% a month, compared to a lead acid battery which is approximately 30% per month. (If you have the battery in a vehicle that has a constant draw, such as a Harley, and you don’t ride for a month, you will need to put the battery on a charger). After a long time of no use, it is wise to check the voltage and if it is less than 13.28V, you should charge it before start attempt. Do not leave a battery, lead acid or lithium in a discharged state or the cells will be permanently damaged. Charge immediately if this happens.

    In the event you have to charge the battery, use a Lithium (LiFePO4) battery charger or a lead-acid battery charger that does not charge above 14.6V, will automatically turns off when the battery is fully charged (based on volts) and does not have a de-sulfate mode. Do not use any charger with voltage that pulses above 15V! This will damage the battery. If in doubt, consult the manual that comes with your charger.

    For chargers with a maintenance mode, the maintenance mode voltage should be 13.3V – 13.9V. For example, the Battery Tender JR has a maintenance mode voltage of 13.3V which is compatible, whereas the original Battery Tender or Battery Tender Plus has a maintenance mode voltage of 13.2V which is too low for a lithium battery. Please read the manual that comes with your charger.

    EarthX Lithium batteries have an internal Battery Management System (BMS) to disconnect the battery from the load (your vehicle) if the battery is drained too low. When the battery is “disconnected”, there is no voltage at the battery terminal. Note, some volt-meters may read a small voltage. The EarthX over-discharge protection circuit is automatically reset when a charging current/voltage is present at the battery terminals (referred to as BMS Reset). Or if you have an EarthX battery manufactured after 2017, simply disconnect the negative terminal from the vehicle and it will reset itself and then you put it on a charger. (On the backside of the negative terminal there is a letter and a number, if this number is a 7 or higher, you have this feature built in)

    If your battery reads near 0 volts, the over-discharge feature has been activated, thus your battery must be charged. If you left your lights on, key on, have a faulty stator, or have a parasitic drain this can easily happen. Our BMS is designed to disconnect the flow of current in the event of over-discharge (internal disconnect switch is opened). Many smart chargers will not attempt to charge a low voltage battery (below 9V). If this happens, there are several ways to charge the battery.

    The easiest way is if you have a charger such as the Optimate lithium charger or one that will engage even if the battery is in this protection mode. Simply connect the alligator clips first, plug in the charger next, and the save mode will come on and start charging it.
    Another method is to connect your charger to the EarthX battery as normal, then put either a jump pack or another 12V charged battery in parallel with the EarthX battery so the charger will read it’s voltage and engage. Once the charger sees voltage it begins to charge as normal. After 5-20 seconds you can remove the jump pack or jumper cables (being careful not to disconnect the charger). Recharging this battery from the depleted state can take from a couple hours to overnight. To watch a video of how to do this, go to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o-YYpy9hYU
    If the battery will not reset and charge after attempting either 1 or 2 above, you could have a damaged cell so do not continue to attempt to use or charge the battery. Do not attempt to charge a battery that is swollen in appearance. Do not attempt to jump start a battery that is swollen in appearance.
    The table below shows a list of chargers, and specifically indicates chargers that will work for recharging an “over-discharged” battery. This is not an all inclusive list.

    Manufacturer Model Safe to use BMS Reset Suggested Use
    ACI 1206S60CC No No Do not use, as full time de-sulfating mode will damage a lithium battery
    Adventure Power 1000, 2000, 4000 models Yes No Use as charger, maintainer, but will not reset EarthX’s BMS over-discharge protection
    Battery Minder Any model No No Do not use, as full time de-sulfating mode will damage a lithium battery
    Black N Decker Any models No No Per the manufacturer, they state it is not safe to charge a lithium battery with any of their models
    Christie All Models No No Do not use, as full time de-sulfating mode will damage a lithium battery
    CTEC Lithium US Yes Yes Use as charger, maintainer and it will reset EarthX’s BMS over-discharge protection
    CTEC All lead acid charger models No No Do not use, as full time de-sulfating mode will damage a lithium battery
    Deltran Battery Tender Jr Yes No Use as charger, maintainer, but will not reset EarthX’s BMS over-discharge protection
    Deltran Battery Tender (original or Plus) Yes No Can be used for charging only. Maintenance voltage is too low.
    Diehard All Models No No Do not use, as full time de-sulfating mode will damage a lithium battery
    Duraboost Duraboost 750, 1000 Yes No Can be used for charging. Can not find a maintenance voltage in manual so if it is less than 13.3V, too low.
    Duracell Duracell Ultra SLC10002 Yes No Use as charger, maintainer, but will not reset EarthX’s BMS over-discharge protection
    H-D (Harley Davidson) Tender Jr Yes No Use as charger, maintainer, but will not reset EarthX’s BMS over-discharge protection
    Moose Tender Jr Yes No Use as charger, maintainer, but will not reset EarthX’s BMS over-discharge protection
    MotoMaster 10/2A Automatic Charger 10/2A Automatic Yes No Use as charger, maintainer, but will not reset EarthX’s BMS over-discharge protection
    Napa All models No No Do not use, as full time de-sulfating mode will damage a lithium battery
    NOCO Genius All Models except the lithium specific one No No Do not use, as full time de-sulfating mode will damage a lithium battery
    Noco Genius Lithium Noco Genius Lithium Yes No Use as charger, maintainer, but will not reset EarthX’s BMS over-discharge protection
    ODYSSEY Ultimizer Yes No Use as charger and maintainer
    Pulsetech Xtreme XC100 No No Do not use, as full time de-sulfating mode will damage a lithium battery
    Power Pulse PP-12-L No No Do not use, as full time de-sulfating mode will damage a lithium battery
    Schauer Charge Master CM6A, CM12A No No Do not use, as full time de-sulfating mode will damage a lithium battery
    Schauer JAC0512,1212, 2512 Yes No Use as charger, maintainer
    Schumacher Any lead acid model No No Do not use, as full time de-sulfating mode will damage a lithium battery

    TecMate/ Optimate

    Lithium TM-471, TM-290, TM-291, TM-271, TM-485 Yes Yes Use as charger, maintainer and it will reset EarthX’s BMS over-discharge protection. (The TM-471/485 is not recommended for the aircraft batteries as it will time out and turn off before it charges).
    TecMate/Optimate All lead acid charger models No No Do not use, as full time de-sulfating mode will damage a lithium battery
    Tenergy 4cell LiFePO4 Smart Charger Yes Yes Use as charger, maintainer and it will reset EarthX’s BMS over-discharge protection
    Yuasa Smart Shot 900 Yes No Can be used for charging. Can not find a maintenance voltage in manual so if it is less than 13.8V, too low.
    Yuasa Smart Shot 1.5mA No No Do not use, as full time de-sulfating mode will damage a lithium battery
    Note: is not an all-inclusive list
    As with any battery you are charging, follow these safety tips:

  • Re: Stator output.

    by » 5 years ago


    Replaced the rectifier and now it works fine.

    Thanks for everyones replies.

  • Re: Stator output.

    by » one year ago


    I have a similar problem in my Aircam with twin Rotax 912 uls and two new B&C Regulators and the EarthX battery. Voltage does not go above 13.4 on my Dynon even when I go fly for an hour or more. Does not appear to be discharging either. Don't know if I have a problem or not?


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