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I was flying a motorglider this weekend, when suddenly at 5k' the motor lost all power. RPM basically dropped to idle. The engine was still running, but anything more than (what felt like) about 10% throttle results in manifold pressure and RPM dropping.

I was climbing out at 100% power, and had taken off without 115% power. I'm running 100LL. Fuel pressure was fine. The cowl flaps were open on takeoff and I progressively closed them as I got higher. I was closely monitoring CHT and oil temperature and everything was in the green. No EGT so a little blind on exhaust temps.

After soaring for a few minutes I turned the engine back on to see if anything had changed after a cooldown and unfortunately it hadn't. The engine started just fine, but as I advanced the throttle the power quickly fell and manifold pressure dropped precipitously. Turning the boost pump on didn't change anything. Had a half tank of gas put in 30 minutes earlier. No vibration I noticed before or after the event.

I didn't have an opportunity to troubleshoot after landing 

Thoughts on what this could be and things I should look at first when I get back to the plane? My working theory right now is that the turbo is malfunctioning, as that would explain manifold pressure dropping as I open the throttle. However, knowing how stupidly expensive a turbo is I really, really don't want it to be the turbo!

  • Re: 914 full power loss in flight

    by » one year ago


    Sure sounds like a fuel delivery issue.


  • Re: 914 full power loss in flight

    by » one year ago


    That was a thought I explored, but after a lot of time spent with the fuel pressure regulator circuit on this engine, I feel like this isn't a fuel delivery problem. The fuel pressure sensor is at the regulator, and the only thing downstream of the regulator are the two carbs. Since the engine didn't run rough, whatever happened affected both carbs equally. My conclusion-- perhaps wrong-- is that if it were a fuel delivery problem before the regulator than the pressure gauge would have shown this, and if it had been after then the engine would have run unevenly.

    Also, wouldn't the manifold pressure still increase as I opened up the throttle, even if I had a fuel delivery issue? From the brief seconds I looked at it in the air, it seemed to me that the MP dropped to at-or-below idle MP every time I asked for more than a bit of power.


  • Re: 914 full power loss in flight

    by » one year ago


    The motor requires air and fuel. If it stumbles when opening the throttle, giving it more air, it’s not getting enough fuel. If it smooths out reducing the throttle it’s because the air/fuel mixture is right for combustion, less fuel wants less air.


  • Re: 914 full power loss in flight

    by » one year ago


    @Sam that's a cogent point. I was showing positive fuel pressure, and I know from experience with this plane that the engine will fail due to upstream fuel starvation only when the gauge shows 0 fuel pressure. Is there a way that both carbs could simultaneously stop delivering fuel? Maybe if the choke flopped open or a compensation tube cracked?

    Or maybe the new gas was contaminated? The plane has a ~6L header tank, so if there was bad gas 15 minutes of 100% power could be just about the time that the header tank would have been completely refilled from the main tank.


  • Re: 914 full power loss in flight

    by » 12 months ago


    Problem found. A pressure hose had blown off the carb. This instantly caused both carbs to lose their float bowl pressure, which in turn meant the venturi air was higher pressure and thus forcing its way into the carbs, instead of carb fuel going into the venturi. That explains the immediate and total loss of power.

    I think what had happened is that when the mechanic replaced the pressure hose, the new hose was very, very tight, and so (I'm guessing) the thinking was that no hose clamp was needed. However, as the engine compartment heated up, the hose got softer and softer, reducing its grip. At the same time, with increasing altitude the difference between the hose pressure and ambient increased. The ultimate outcome was the hose couldn't hold on as hard at a time when it needed to hold on even harder than before.

    Hose reseated, this time with a hose clamp. Engine performed flawlessly to 13,500'.


    Thank you said by: Ken Ryan, RotaxOwner Admin

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