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I have a 2005 912uls installed in a Kitfox (about 360 hrs). It has been a great starter both cold and hot until recently. On one occasion the engine barely started after a long series of cranks. More recently it would not start at all and I quit trying when the battery was drained. It cranks fine but will not fire. I pulled the plugs and they looked fine (less than 10 hours on them). I dropped one fuel bowl and it was full of fuel. I verified my ignition circuit was not the problem. I did not try to start it again for about 2 weeks. I charged the less than one year old battery and tried again. This time it fired right up like it usually does and ran fine. I am aware that a good rpm is needed to start and it seemed like I had that.

I have seen the string on the trouble with ignition modules. I seem to remember from my Lockwood Training class that you need to be careful checking spark or you will damage the modules. If this happens again, is there someway to check spark or check the modules? Any other ideas out there?

Thanks.
Craig
  • Re: Intermittent Hard Start 912uls

    by » 9 years ago


    Hi Craig,

    This sure sounds like a battery issue even at 1 year.if the starting rpm was just a few rpm too low to start the engine the human ear wouldn't pick it up. If this happens again either charge it or jump it right after a single hard start. If it fires right up you probably have your answer. Need a new battery.

    Here is another trick. If right after a hard start failure put a bag of ice around the ignition modules and if it starts then you need new modules.

    Do the battery check first. It's quick and easy and with a little luck a whole lot cheaper.

    Roger Lee
    LSRM-A & Rotax Instructor & Rotax IRC
    Tucson, AZ Ryan Airfield (KRYN)
    520-349-7056 Cell


  • Re: Intermittent Hard Start 912uls

    by » 9 years ago


    To check for spark remove the back top left spark plug, tie the aircraft securely, insert the spark plug in the spark plug cap, and, while holding the spark plug firmly against the head, either ask a pilot friend to turn the starter switch or stand outside and do it youself. Provide some shade over the engine. You will be able to see the spark easily. Phil Lockwood says a few seconds with the plug not grounded won't hurt a module but I wouldn't let it happen at all.

    My failed modules actually required some warm up to fire after a while.

  • Re: Intermittent Hard Start 912uls

    by » 9 years ago


    Hi Alan

    When the engine fires up on 3 cylinders, what do you do then?

    Mark

  • Re: Intermittent Hard Start 912uls

    by » 9 years ago


    Hi Mark.

    If it fires up that means it is sparking. Just shut it down.

    You can lessen the chance of that by leaving the throttle at idle and not pulling the choke.

    Alan

  • Re: Intermittent Hard Start 912uls

    by » 9 years ago


    My Piper Lance, with its 300 Hp Lycoming IO-540, had a socket that I could use to plug in a jumper cable from my car. It's incredible how much a strong, warm battery, in a running car, can spin the prop compared to an anemic aircraft battery, especially after the plane has been sitting overnight in the cold. Good, fully charged, warm batteries do make a huge difference.

    Sandy

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