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I note that Rotax has released updated installation and operations manuals for the 912 IS and IS Sport.

However in the Performance section of the operators manual, unless I am mistaken, there is still no table of manifold pressures corresponding to recommended power settings at various rpm that would allow me to correctly set MP for my constant speed propeller.

I am required by law to refer to manifold pressures to set acceptable power levels.

While it may be possible to infer a power level from the supplied fuel consumption/manifold pressure graphs by assuming a g/kw relationship, this is not ideal and would not be approved data from a regulators perspective, nor does it indicate what operating rpm/manifold pressure ranges are desirable or permissible for the same power level.

Is this matter going to be addressed by Rotax?
  • Re: Manifold Pressure Values?????

    by » 8 years ago


    Hi Geoffrey,
    Which Law and regulator requires you to set a Manifold pressure and which regulator prohibits the use of fuel burn and the Manufacturers recommendations for a non certified engine ?

    I am curious because I cannot find any such regulation or Law under my Countries aviation rules?

    Kind regards

    Glenn

    P.S I do know the best settings for the Rotax (MP and RPM) for most efficient use within the Rotax recommendations, However of course I could not possibly tell you...I do not want myself, or you to fall foul of your Laws.

  • Re: Manifold Pressure Values?????

    by » 8 years ago


    I have asked for an explanation.

  • Re: Manifold Pressure Values?????

    by » 8 years ago


    Hi GLenn, Australian regulations now require a manifold pressure gauge to be fitted to aircraft with a constant speed propeller. The obvious intent is to use it to set power.

  • Re: Manifold Pressure Values?????

    by » 8 years ago


    CASA...I should have guessed, and I doubt that anything is "obvious" for CASA.

    Anyway politics aside, having a MAP sensor is standard for constant speed props. But the regulator does not specify what MAP and what RPM the Pilot does. The engine manufacturer cannot there are too many combinations of airframe and prop. AND there is a better way than a "MAP table".


    To keep it simple....and I am simplifying so do not crucify me for the fudge.

    1) Rotax 912 IS Sport you can operate any MAP you want to get the desired outcome.

    2) Full power is 5800 rpm and WOT ie maximum available MAP.

    3) After 5 minutes you can run at 5500 rpm continuously and any MAP you want.

    4) Unlike Carbed engines the ECU has a 3D Map for fuel/ignition and rpm/MAP. Therefore unless you are over 97% throttle the ECU will run on Stoichiometric. Therefore yes you can use fuel flow to approximate power, it will be close over the range from 4000-5500 at throttle settings below 97%

    5) That gives you a huge number of combinations of settings...which can be practically daunting.

    6) IC engines all have a "happy place" where the resonant frequencies work best to get the best Volumetric efficiency. In simple terms this is where the torque curve is highest.

    7) the upshot of all of this is that if you set the 912IS Sport to 5000 rpm with the constant speed prop for cruise and then adjust power by using the throttle you will (almost) always have the most efficient point.

    8) for sustained climb set the constant speed to 5500 rpm and vary the throttle (MAP) as required.

    9) For Max take off power set 5800 rpm and max MAP.

    10) Another way to estimate power is of course the traditional way with saying MAP is proportional, The Rotax curves are in the manual, it is also close, but not as close as fuel flow.

    Finally Rotax are doing the right thing by not giving a "MAP" vs power table...it is too rough, but was all that was possible last century with the old technology.

    You have a great new technology engine, do not handicap it by applying 1940's techniques.

    Hope this helps

    Glenn

  • Re: Manifold Pressure Values?????

    by » 8 years ago


    I note that rotax still has not released guidelines or recommendations for the manifold pressure settings to achieve the stated powers (continuous, 75%, 65%, 50%) for an aircraft fitted with a constant speed propeller.

    The only guide I have found is by interpolating between the fuel flows given in the table on page 62 of the POH and the fuel flow/MP chat o the previous page.

    This begs the question of why the maximum fuel flow on the ff/Mp graph is 27.2 at WOT and not the lower 26.1 specified in the table on page 62.

    Attempting to interpolate using the specified RPM figures for the power settings gives MP figures of 27 for 75% power, 24 for 65% and 23 for 50%.

    Does rotax expect me NOT to have an MP gauge and instead set power by adjusting throttle to achieve fuel flow and then adjusting the propeller to specified RPM?

    I would have thought that the fuel flow is the independent variable. The manifold pressure is a direct substitute for torque produced. This is extremely unnerving. Where is there a traditional graph of MP vs power?

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